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Autor: | villa66 [ 28. Mär 2017, 06:19 ] |
Betreff des Beitrags: | Re: 2 Macuta aus Angola |
My only firsthand acquaintance with the Angolan 2-macutas is the small copper-nickel coin of 1927-28. It’s a coin that’s piqued my interest because of its double-denomination—and I like the allegorical portrait that adorns it—so I clicked on your thread thinking I would learn more about it. What a surprise! Old copper, (very) big and heavy—it has to be fun to hold—and the added romance of an overstrike with a partially visible host-coin beneath. Scarce, too. Nice! My 1801-1900 Krause is old too, but it’s a little newer (2006). Your coin was still not illustrated, but had acquired a new catalog number (KM49). Of the three dates listed, 1815, 1816, and 1819, only the 1816 was accompanied by a mintage figure: 3,175. But that was 11 years ago. I hope they’ve improved the Angola section since then. Nice coin! Congratulations… v. |
Autor: | KarlAntonMartini [ 28. Mär 2017, 08:08 ] |
Betreff des Beitrags: | Re: 2 Macuta aus Angola |
Glückwunsch zu dem Stück! Grüße, KarlAntonMartini |
Autor: | Afrasi [ 28. Mär 2017, 12:29 ] |
Betreff des Beitrags: | Re: 2 Macuta aus Angola |
Thanks for both comments! Just found a newer KM of 2009 under my desk. The coin is still without picture, but now with the number #47. There seems to be some ongoing numismatic work. Thanks for the correction of the mintage figure! The catalogue of Rebelo de Sousa has no mintage figures. Now I have to find my Gomez and my Vaz/Delgado ... |
Autor: | villa66 [ 29. Mär 2017, 19:40 ] |
Betreff des Beitrags: | Re: 2 Macuta aus Angola |
Afrasi hat geschrieben: ...There seems to be some ongoing numismatic work.... That was very much my thought, looking at the catalog--the section definitely seemed "in-progress." I'm sorry about the mintage figure...I hoped it was new information about a different date, that could be added to what you had already. Funny thing is--in my 2006, and maybe in your 2009--the 1819 coin is singled out as rare. For me--someone who doesn't often venture beyond the usual modern stuff--a circulation coin with a mintage below 5,000 is rare. So maybe I need to get out a little more. v. |
Autor: | Afrasi [ 30. Mär 2017, 09:25 ] |
Betreff des Beitrags: | Re: 2 Macuta aus Angola |
The coin of 1819 is unconfirmed. It is perhaps unique or even non-existing - so really "rare". |
Autor: | villa66 [ 16. Sep 2017, 06:17 ] | |||
Betreff des Beitrags: | Re: 2 Macuta aus Angola | |||
I return to this thread on the Angolan 2-macuta for a little fun, because I recently encountered an Angolan 10-centavo piece of the 1921-23 type. This note in my coin-notebook deals with Angola’s 10-centavos/2-macutas coin of 1927-28, which had been all I had known of the macuta… x: This 1928 Angolan 10-centavos/2-macutas—double-denominated on its face—is one of those “bridge-coins” that sometimes appears at various times and places. You can see them trying to straddle a cultural or political divide, and sometimes they seem constructive and practical, but other times they can seem…well, condescending, or manipulative. (10) Then along comes the 1923 10-centavo pictured below, and the first thing I see is that it isn’t called out in macutas at all. So it looks maybe as if the colonial authorities had debuted a purely centavos-denominated coin, but then felt the need to backtrack some, and explain the new centavos in terms of the old macutas after all. v.
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Autor: | Afrasi [ 17. Sep 2017, 13:13 ] |
Betreff des Beitrags: | Re: 2 Macuta aus Angola |
Interesting thoughts! I do agree. |
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